**Official Lamar @ South Alabama Game Thread**

[CardAmbassador]

Lamar Cardinals @ South Alabama Jaguars
September 10th 2011 - 4:00 p.m.
Ladd-Peebles Stadium (http://www.laddpeeblesstadium.com/) - Mobil, Alabama

Game Notes
South Alabama Jaguars (1-0) 20-10 over West Alabama (http://www.uwaathletics.com/index.aspx?path=football)
Game Notes - South Alabama Game Notes (http://usajaguars.com/documents/2011/9/5/usa-lamar_football_game_notes.pdf)
About USA - South Alabama wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_South_Alabama)
Twitter Feed - @GoJAGSFootball
Roster - South Alabama Roster (http://www.usajaguars.com/roster.aspx?path=football)
Fan Site - JagsJungle.com (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=466)

Lamar (1-0) 58-0 over Texas College
Game Notes - LU Game Notes (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/lama/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/release/release_20110907aaa.pdf)
Twitter - @LamarCards
Roster - LU Roster (http://www.lamarcardinals.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/lama-m-footbl-mtt.html)
Fan Site - Here!

Other Helpful Links
BE Lamar Sports (http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/lamar/)

Coverage
Online TV - ESPN 3 (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/#type/upcoming/)
Fox 4 - Live TV
KLVI AM 560 - KLVI Player (http://www.klvi.com/mediaplayer/)

Weather
Weather (http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USAL0371?dayNum=5)

Ticket info
Group Coupon (http://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-university-of-south-alabama-athletics?utm_campaign=gl-university-of-south-alabama-athletics&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&c=button&utm_content=mobile-baldwin-county_inter&d=deal&date=20110826&division=mobile-baldwin-county&s=featured_deal&sid=10957886&user=ee496358a2e252e7111bd0324967ac1f03640f0147a7f 2ce9e7b4311d0ae3edd)
Ticket Site (http://www.ticketmaster.com/University-of-South-Alabama-Jaguar-Football-tickets/artist/1351488)

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2011 Lamar Stats

Players: 83
Avg Weight: 227 lbs
Avg Height: 6'1"

Avg by position
Pos | Height | Weight |
QB 6'1 186
RB 5'8" 179
WR 6'0" 179
OL 6'3" 294
TE 6'3" 238
DE 6'3" 240
DL 6'2" 261
DB 5'10" 178
DS 6'2" 240

Avg 5 Largest OL: 331
Avg 4 Largest DL: 291

2011 South Alabama Stats
Players 114
Avg Weight 223
Avg Height 6'0"

Avg by position
Pos | Height | Weight |
QB 6'1 200
RB 5'10" 202
WR 5'11" 181
OL 6'3" 294
TE 6'2" 241
DE 6'2" 230
DL 6'1" 269
DB 5'11" 188
DS 6'1" 223

Avg 5 Largest OL: 328
Avg 4 Largest DL: 283.75

Note:players with two positions were only calculated at their first listed position

[LU1991]

Can't wait. Should be a great measure to see what improvements we have made over last year. I'm betting the jags lose by 17. We will be in Alabama to see the payback.

[CardAmbassador]

So if you visit JungleJags.com their fan site there is already a little banter going on about the LU game. They seem to believe they will be the most improved of our two teams. I think they will be much improved but I would have to say that I really think Lamar is going to be one of the most improved teams in CFB. Don't forget how small we were on the O line, how few players we had at the end of the season because of injuries. Just looking at the size difference in this team I know that we will be improved over last year.

I'm still going with my original score: 20-17.

[SFA Fan]

We will be in Alabama to see the payback.

Mobile is a cool place. Stay the weekend if you can and check out the beach. Great seafood restaurants there, too. Just down the road to the east is Pass Christian, MS. There is a really cool place to eat named "Shaggy's" that sits overlooking the bay. :)


http://shaggys.biz/

[BigRedTrack]

We will be in Alabama to see the payback.

Mobile is a cool place. Stay the weekend if you can and check out the beach. Great seafood restaurants there, too. Just down the road to the east is Pass Christian, MS. There is a really cool place to eat named "Shaggy's" that sits overlooking the bay. :)


http://shaggys.biz/

Thanks for the tip.

[So. Bammy Fan]

Our game notes are up.

http://usajaguars.com/documents/2011/9/5/usa-lamar_football_game_notes.pdf

[oldbamadude]

We will be in Alabama to see the payback.

Mobile is a cool place. Stay the weekend if you can and check out the beach. Great seafood restaurants there, too. Just down the road to the east is Pass Christian, MS. There is a really cool place to eat named "Shaggy's" that sits overlooking the bay. :)


http://shaggys.biz/
No need to go all the way to Mississippi, just go here on the causeway....
http://www.edsshed.com/

[CardAmbassador]

Predictions anyone?

[TBonesLU]

If you look at the game notes that were posted (thanks by the way), LU is averaging 43 lbs. more on our O-Line than USA does on their D-Line. This could get good...

Prediction: 31-28, LU

[LU1991]

We will be in Alabama to see the payback.

Mobile is a cool place. Stay the weekend if you can and check out the beach. Great seafood restaurants there, too. Just down the road to the east is Pass Christian, MS. There is a really cool place to eat named "Shaggy's" that sits overlooking the bay. :)


http://shaggys.biz/
No need to go all the way to Mississippi, just go here on the causeway....
http://www.edsshed.com/

Thanks for the tip. We are meeting some LU fans at the Wentzles Oyster House downtown Mobile Friday night. I'm not sure where we will be for the victory party after the game.

[theTestament]

We will be in Alabama to see the payback.

Mobile is a cool place. Stay the weekend if you can and check out the beach. Great seafood restaurants there, too. Just down the road to the east is Pass Christian, MS. There is a really cool place to eat named "Shaggy's" that sits overlooking the bay. :)


http://shaggys.biz/


I have been there several times and never pass through without stopping to eat. Great Food!

[theTestament]

Should still be a saturated playing field so I think its a lower scoring game.
Lamar 13 South Alabama 10

[CardAmbassador]

One note about last years game. They might have ran the ball on us very easily but they were running against our second string defensive line the entire night. (don't know who was backing those guys up) But Adren Dorsey did not play. And our other starter this year, Prescott is a transfer so he was not on the team yet.

Go look at the roster and take away Prescott and Adren from the DL, of course they rammed the ball down our throats. They will be going against two much stronger guys this year.

[LU1991]

I believe they have FieldTurf so hopefully the field is not an issue. High 86 and no rain forecasted for game day.

[theTestament]

I believe they have FieldTurf so hopefully the field is not an issue. High 86 and no rain forecasted for game day.

You are right. I was thinking of the old Stadium before the renovations.

[bigredfan2]

I heard this morning that there may be another T.S. headed to Mobile this weekend.
:(

[TBonesLU]

I heard this morning that there may be another T.S. headed to Mobile this weekend.
:(

If I know anything though, it's that underdogs up their chances when rain is thrown in the mix...at least that's the case for horse racing.

[CardAmbassador]

I heard this morning that there may be another T.S. headed to Mobile this weekend.
:(

What's the name of the system? I don't see anything on any websites I've visited.

[coachacola]

I checked weather.com and it's suppose to be sunny and in the upper 80's Saturday in Mobile. Should be a great day for football, hopefully it'll stay that way.

[Big T]

This is the only one that could possibly cause trouble and i dont think it will as it is moving at a WNW direction.

http://www.stormpulse.com/disturbance-2-low-potential-2011

[oldbamadude]

I believe they have FieldTurf so hopefully the field is not an issue. High 86 and no rain forecasted for game day.

You are right. I was thinking of the old Stadium before the renovations.

Putting in field turf was a very good thing with all the HS football, Alabama-Mississippi game, Senior Bowl, Go Daddy.com, Gulf Coast classic and the Jags, that field gets a workout. However, the scoreboard is outdated....how about bringing yours when you come.:)

[coachacola]

Wish I could go to the game. I drove through Mobile a few months ago on my way to Pensacola Beach. That's not a bad drive at all, most of the drive is through Louisiana.

[bigred360]

I'm excited to see how much we improved as last week you couldn't take anything away from that game. We could have beat them 100-0 if the coaching staff wanted but they are more classy than that and played the 4th string in the 4th quarter.

I love reading about their winning streak without a loss. That will eventually come to an end and if might as well be this weekend. We'll be a FCS program that makes ESPN if that happens.

I visited their fan site on scout.com and for the most part they are some nice people. Of course, they are supporting their team and give us little credit for being a better team this year.

[CardAmbassador]

I'm excited to see how much we improved as last week you couldn't take anything away from that game. We could have beat them 100-0 if the coaching staff wanted but they are more classy than that and played the 4th string in the 4th quarter.

I love reading about their winning streak without a loss. That will eventually come to an end and if might as well be this weekend. We'll be a FCS program that makes ESPN if that happens.

I visited their fan site on scout.com and for the most part they are some nice people. Of course, they are supporting their team and give us little credit for being a better team this year.

I agree, this is going to be a good measure of progress for the Cards, and I can't wait to see what we can do. I give us a shot at winning this game, and if we do it will be something these guys can remember forever. Ending a winning streak is always fun for the opposing team! B)

[CardAmbassador]

Good news out of towners!

ESPN 3 (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/#type/upcoming/) will broadcast the game online.

[LU1991]

Post from jagsjungle.com :


Nominate | Report
Posted: TodayÂ*10:36Â*PM
Game Day Information for our visitors from Lamar.Â*
Please get the word out to the LU fans traveling to the game Saturday.Â*

The stadium parking lot is sold out to season ticket holders, so there is NO single game parking in the stadium lot except the following two:

1. Legitimate Handicap tags / stickers. Â* Must be real deal, they don't honor sob stories about how fat, old or ugly you are.Â* Cost - $15.

2. RV / Trailers - Cost - $65 for Friday night thru Sunday noon......RV only...No cars pulling cookers, etc.Â*

For tailgating, there are many private lots across the street from the stadium for $10 - $20 per car.....Get there early as they go fast. Best are located on the west side of stadium, but some on both sides. Â*

For those just going to the game, use the shuttle service from Mall.Â* Only $2.50 per person, round trip....Great deal!Â* Drops off right at the stadium and our fans in the lot tailgating are very friendly and most likely will invite you in for food and fun......Check out USA website www.usajaguars.com and look for game day for complete information.

Thanks for getting this info out.....

[CardinalClaw]

At least one and possibly two Lamar University starters will be back Saturday against South Alabama.

Tight end Billy Chavis practiced in pads Tuesday and Wednesday and appears fully healed from a knee injury that caused him to miss Saturday’s 58-0 victory against Texas College.

“He’s put in two good days,� Woodard said.

Wide receiver Marcus Jackson (sprained ankle) might also return Saturday after he ran routes at full speed without pads Wednesday night.

“Unbelievable,� Woodard said. “I would have said Tuesday he was out. But he ran around good (Wednesday). We’ll probbaly pad him up (Thursday) and see how he does because he looks good.�

Last season, Jackson ranked second on the team in catches (41) and receiving yards (727) but caught a team-high 8 touchdown passes.

Chavis caught 12 passes for 78 yards and a touchdown.

Chavis returns as another tight end, Kevin Davis, is lost for the season with a knee injury. Wooodard said Davis injured the knee against Texas College.

http://blog.beaumontenterprise.com/inthecards/2011/09/07/te-chavis-and-maybe-wr-jackson-will-play-saturday/

[CardAmbassador]

That's great news!! Marcus Jackson at full speed and Chavis already back. That sounds like all the starters to me. I like the health of this team moving into the next two weeks. I hope we can stay this way in to the beginning of conference play.

[lu cards]

another starter they rested last week was braden thomas.like to hear if he is playing??

[CardAmbassador]

LU Game Notes (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/lama/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/release/release_20110907aaa.pdf)

MOBILE, Ala. - Lamar University's high-rolling Cardinals will follow their record-setting 58-0 season-opening romp over Texas College with a much stiffer test this Saturday afternoon as they will hit the road to challenge South Alabama in 38,888-seat Ladd-Peebles Stadium.

Under the guidance of coach Joey Jones, South Alabama boasts an unblemished 18-0 record since starting its football program during the 2009 season. Lamar University's players got an up close look at the quality of South Alabama's team in Beaumont last year when the Jaguars dealt the Cardinals a 26-0 defeat.

South Alabama opened its season on Sept. 1 with a 20-10 home victory over West Alabama. Sophomore running back Kendall Houston helped lead the way by rushing for a game-high 78 yards and two touchdowns. His scores came on runs of 2 and 10 yards.

Freshman quarterback C.J. Bennett completed 12 of 21 passes for 151 yards, but he threw three interceptions.

Junior running back DePauldrick Garrett, a transfer from Navarro College, made his Cardinal debut a spectacular one as he ran for a school-record four touchdowns and scored a record 24 points in last Saturday's season-opening victory over Texas College.

Read More: http://www.lamarcardinals.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090811aaa.html

[bigred360]

lu card, I'm pretty sure Branden Thomas is healthy to play this week. I heard if we were playing someone besides Texas College he could have played last week.

[CardAmbassador]

Here is the game article from South Alabama:

http://www.usajaguars.com/news/2011/9/6/FB_0906110450.aspx

Players to watch for:

Enrique Williams
B.J. Scott (Bama transfer)
Kendall Houston

[CardAmbassador]

Darby Jackson via twitter:


i want a jaguar skin belt...

These guys are going to play!

[LU4LIFE]

Sounds like Darby Jackson is going into Mobile with some intensity hopefully the whole team will do the same.

[CardAmbassador]

Yep, here is more from Jackson:


#hoggin me and tha hoggs goin up to mobil alabama and (expletive) up this parade at south alabama...word is bond

[Mike]

Remember we'll have updates provided throughout the game here on the site.

[CardAmbassador]

Broadcast has started and BRI member West is currently on the air. :)

[CardAmbassador]

Settle down Cards!!

[CardAmbassador]

Nice sack Cards, The cardinals will get the punt.

[AggiesAreWe]

CA, where are you watching this? Fox 4 has yet to get the game on air. They are having difficulties getting a live feed out of Mobil. Fox 4 has been running commercials for the last 15 minutes.

[CardAmbassador]

3 and out cards, tisk tisk.

Settle down Lamar.

Go LU!

[CardAmbassador]

I'm listening on the Radio.

[AggiesAreWe]

It sucks that Fox 4 can get the game on air. But I can certainly relate to the mess that they are experiencing.

Hopefully they can get it all worked out soon and get the game on the air before too much of the game has been played.

[Mike]

Lamar 0
USA 0

8:27 1st

[CardAmbassador]

South Alabama time out. Not sure where the ball is but it's south's ball they haven't started their series yet.

LU started off slow, 2 penalties on kick off. Coleman is having a good outing though. He just needs to settle down.

[LUSportsFan]

Chris Dabe's "In the Cards" blog is a pretty good source also. Chris referenced the site below for a good text play by play if someone in the house is sleeping in her recliner next to you. :laugh:

Link: http://sidearmstats.com/southalabama/football/index.htm

[Mike]

LU holds USA on 4th and 1. Asim Hicks making a play.

[CardAmbassador]

Cardinals stop the Jags again! This is a different defense, Offense needs to show up now.

[TBonesLU]

Big Cards defensive stop on 4th and 1!!!!

[TBonesLU]

1st down!!! (Motions hand)

[CardAmbassador]

The running game is doing well. :)

[coachacola]

Defense is holding up, now it's time for the offense to get into gear.

[Vroo]

They're moving it.

[TBonesLU]

Better believe it...

[CardAmbassador]

Need a little better balance of passing and rushing, still not doing bad.

tough break, andre completes it but the receiver is out of bounds.

[TBonesLU]

Good punt to the 4!

[Vroo]

Cards need a quick defensive series here and get the ball back with good field position.

[LUFAN]

It looks like UTSA is going to lose to McMurray... A team that SFA put 82 pts on just a week ago.

[CardAmbassador]

The run defense is what I'm loving, Coleman is filling every gap. Completely different from last year.

[TBonesLU]

Coleman is having a good, sound game.

[Mike]

dumb penalty there.

[coachacola]

It looks like UTSA is going to lose to McMurray... A team that SFA put 82 pts on just a week ago.

That might have a big affect on their big home crowds.

[CardAmbassador]

dumb penalty there.

+1 Don't know why these guys like to shoot the team in the foot!

[Mike]

since the penalty USA promptly moves the ball to LU's 44. It'll happen every time.

[Mike]

It looks like UTSA is going to lose to McMurray... A team that SFA put 82 pts on just a week ago.

That might have a big affect on their big home crowds.


Northeastern must be terrible.

[CardAmbassador]

USA starting to move the ball, can't have these stupid penalties. Let's see if we can tighten up again.

[Mike]

It's good to hear Blake Chavis name being called frequently.

[coachacola]

ESPN has a nice gamecast: http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/gamecast?gameId=312530006

[Vroo]

LU started nice but gotta be able to stuff the run. Run D has to tighten up.

[CardAmbassador]

S Bama scores, they're running the ball well now. Gotta rap up. Need to keep the defense off the field now.

[Mike]

TD USA.

Lamar 0
USA 7

12:00 2nd

All started after a 15 yard penalty inside the USA 10 yard line.

[Big T]

Ouch!

[coachacola]

First half stats:

Total Yards: 95-22 in USA's favor.
Time of Possession: 10 minutes for USA, 5 for Lamar.

[coachacola]

Will we see Johnson now?

[Mike]

wonder if we'll see Johnson here.

[Mike]

Andre still in at QB.

[Vroo]

Still going with Bevil

[Big T]

COM'ON JJ Hayes!

[Mike]

The offense really needs to step up here and at worst get a couple first downs. The defense cant afford to get put right back out there. Huge play right here.

[Big T]

This offence looks horrible!

[Vroo]

Another 3 and out

[CardAmbassador]

Too many mistakes. All mental at this point.

[Big T]

NOOOOOOO!!!!

[CardAmbassador]

Defense being asked to do too much, if the offense doesn't step up soon it will not be pretty.

[Vroo]

Got to stop the penalties.

[Big T]

Did anybody see that pass interference play?

[Vroo]

They better figure out something quick or it's going to get ugly.

[Big T]

This is ugly!

[Mike]

USA TD

Lamar 0
USA 14

All this began with a dumb 15-yard penalty.

[jdcurran235]

Prewitt or JJ should be in

[CardAmbassador]

LU offense has to step up and complete some passes, keep the defense off the field and best case scenario get us back in the game with some points.

We're defeating ourselves once again.

[Big T]

Good feild position.

[jdcurran235]

I dont know why the coach loves bevil so much.

[Big T]

Still Bevil.

[Mike]

Prewitt or JJ should be in


JJ made two mental errors on last drive. Radio said the 3rd down throw went right through his hands and he had a blocking penalty. Thats not on Bevil.

[CardAmbassador]

I dont know why the coach loves bevil so much.

Bevil hasn't really done anything wrong yet, no TO's or sacks or anything. Play calling needs to go a bit more pass heavy though.

[TBonesLU]

Keep moving it!

[CardAmbassador]

Marcus Jackson on the field.

[Big T]

Prewitt or JJ should be in


JJ made two mental errors on last drive. Radio said the 3rd down throw went right through his hands and he had a blocking penalty. Thats not on Bevil.

? Ithink he ment JJ as in Johnson not as in JJ Hays.

[Mike]

4th and 1 coming up

[Big T]

Never mind i get what you were saying my bad.

[Mike]

Prewitt or JJ should be in


JJ made two mental errors on last drive. Radio said the 3rd down throw went right through his hands and he had a blocking penalty. Thats not on Bevil.

? Ithink he ment JJ as in Johnson not as in JJ Hays.


No, I meant JJ Hayes.

[AggiesAreWe]

I am thinking Jeremy will see some action in the 2nd half if things do not improve offensively.

[CardAmbassador]

4th and 1 coming up

Just go for it, I think behind Oden and Campbell Garrett is good for 1 yard, we need to keep the defense off the the field.

[Mike]

USA stuffs Lamar on 4th and 1.

[Big T]

THis truly sucks!

[CardAmbassador]

Coverage sack for the Cards.

[Vroo]

They gotta figure things out at half.

[LUSportsFan]

South Alabama ball. LU penalty declined by USA. USA ball.

[LUFAN]

jeremy johnson

[CardAmbassador]

Over the middle again, I was just about to say watch for that.

[TBonesLU]

jeremy johnson

Bevil isn't your problem!!!! Please realize that!!!

[LUFAN]

johnson is a play maker

[CardAmbassador]

jeremy johnson

Bevil isn't your problem!!!! Please realize that!!!

I must agree, I'm not saying Bevil is playing well but it appears he hasn't done anything wrong, it's everybody else that keeps killing us, penalties are costly. Secondary can't guard the middle of the field either.

[Big T]

Then please tell me what is. He has missed JJ twice wide open and he has only completed one pass.

[CardAmbassador]

If we don't stop it here I don't know what to say.

[TBonesLU]

He didn't miss Hayes twice. Hayes missed two passes thrown in his hands.

[Vroo]

This stinks

[CardAmbassador]

Well this just sucks.

Don't know what to say.

[Vroo]

The D can't stop nothing right now.

[Bruce]

Ok, guys.. if I order a set of these Ronco knives, will you get the satellite feed fixed? This is ridiculous.

[CardAmbassador]

The D can't stop nothing right now.

They've had 2 stops and were about to have another when we started getting penalties to help them out. Secondary is not performing well making it hard for the LB's to guard against the run.

[Vroo]

Ok, guys.. if I order a set of these Ronco knives, will you get the satellite feed fixed? This is ridiculous.

I feel ya. The hair curling thingy there was pretty neat but I have no hair on my head to use it. But I will buy one to see the game.

[CardAmbassador]

Team Stats LAMR SOAL
First Downs 3 14
Total Plays 24 40
Total Yards 64 219
Passing 24 134
Rushing 40 85
Penalties 3 / 40 0 / 0
Possession 11:30 17:45

Defense: I think it's their passing game that is carving us up, I didn't expect that.

Offense: we're actually running it ok, nothing happening in the passing game. Has sounded like dropped passes but I would like to see JJ on the field dual threat and he can throw.

[CardinalClaw]

Us losing is not the most shocking part of this game to me, it is that we are not even being competitive. They better do something in the second half otherwise they are about to get embarrassed really bad.

[LU1991]

I'm already hoarse and its only halftime. Bevil not doing anything wrong but we need some motivation to pull this one out. uuuugggghhhh.

[Vroo]

Lamar/ South Alabama
1st Downs 3 /14
3rd down efficiency 1-6 /6-8
4th down efficiency 0-1 /0-1
Total Yards 64 /219
Passing 24 /134
Comp-Att 3-9 /8-12
Yards per pass 2.7 /11.2
Rushing 40 /85
Rushing Attempts 15 /26
Yards per rush 2.7 /3.3
Penalties 3-40 /0-0
Turnovers 0 /0
Fumbles lost 0 /0
Interceptions thrown 0 /0
Possession 11:30 /17:45


The ones in bold are just a few that really stand out to me. You can't win with those kind of numbers.

[CardAmbassador]

As mentioned by Dabe of the Enterprise Bevil isn't getting alot of time.

[TBonesLU]

That a way, Marcus.

[TBonesLU]

Garrett runs well.

[TBonesLU]

It's about time, Hayes! Nice catch!

[CardAmbassador]

Nice, we finally are connecting in the pass game. Pound it in.

[TBonesLU]

Come on, Cards! They wasted a timeout! We are getting to them!

[CardAmbassador]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TBonesLU]

Damn it, Bevil!

[LUFAN]

bevil blew it jj in now please

[AggiesAreWe]

Bevil fumbles.

SA takes over on their own 1.

CARDS GET SAFETY!!!!!

[Vroo]

Safety but no TD stinks

[CardAmbassador]

Safety. Take it back down the field now! This is unacceptable, we should have 7 on the board.

[CardinalClaw]

Safety we are finally on the scoreboard.

[TBonesLU]

That's even better! Get the ball back with two points. Okay, guys!

[TBonesLU]

Let's make it 9!

[Vroo]

They have got to figure out the penalty thing.

[CardAmbassador]

They have got to figure out the penalty thing.

Agreed!! Penalties are unacceptable, especially when they're preventable.

[Vroo]

So far in two games this has been their nemesis. You can't keep making these kind of mistakes and expect to win against good teams. You can get away with against Texas College but not talented teams.

[jdcurran235]

Team Stats LAMR SOAL
First Downs 3 14
Total Plays 24 40
Total Yards 64 219
Passing 24 134
Rushing 40 85
Penalties 3 / 40 0 / 0
Possession 11:30 17:45

Defense: I think it's their passing game that is carving us up, I didn't expect that.

Offense: we're actually running it ok, nothing happening in the passing game. Has sounded like dropped passes but I would like to see JJ on the field dual threat and he can throw.

24 plays for 64 yards is not ok

[CardAmbassador]

I'm talking about the running game, hasn't been spectacular but it's done it's job. The problem is all in the passing game.

[jdcurran235]

the running game is averaging less than 3 yards a carry. I am not impressed with that either

[jdcurran235]

JJ in!!!!!!!

[CardAmbassador]

Jeremy Johnson comes in.

7th penalty on the Cards!

[jdcurran235]

are we ever going to get a first down.

[CardAmbassador]

Dang, so many 4th and shorts in this game.

[CardAmbassador]

We are defeating ourselves. This is hard to listen to.

Penalties are just killing us and nothing good on offense except that 1st drive of the third quarter.

[CardinalClaw]

We are defeating ourselves. This is hard to listen to.

Penalties are just killing us and nothing good on offense except that 1st drive of the third quarter.

This game is really hard to listen to.

[LU1991]

Its been really hard to watch.

[Mike]

Its been really hard to watch.


haha, isnt that the truth. :)

[Vroo]

Totally outmatched

[CardAmbassador]

Over the middle again!

Probably not good at guarding that since we rarely throw over the middle ourselves.

26-2 almost like last year, but the game isn't over.

[Mike]

I was back and forth with how I thought this game would go, it looks like I went with the wrong option.

[CardAmbassador]

Please just score 1 TD.

[LUSportsFan]

I guess I was hoping it would be closer.

[jdcurran235]

why is bevil back and why so many penalties

[jdcurran235]

4 false starts today. WOW

[Mike]

why is bevil back


better throwing option. They are 24 points down.

[CardAmbassador]

I guess I was hoping it would be closer.

We made the mistake of assuming that the penalties wouldn't be an issue.

Also I just want to see 1 QB. Timing has been a problem.

[LU4LIFE]

This is very disappointing I was expecting to see a better showing by the CARDS.

[jdcurran235]

At this point we just need a spark. Bevil is not supplying a spark.

[CardAmbassador]

At this point we just need a spark. Bevil is not supplying a spark.

I would have to agree on that one. Bevil's only big mistake that I have heard is the fumble (which was a huge mistake) while he may not be losing the game he isn't winning it. Just throw JJ or Prewitt in for the rest of the game and lets see what they do in a game.

[TBonesLU]

At this point we just need a spark. Bevil is not supplying a spark.

Hey, man, we get it. You want Johnson in the game.

[LU4LIFE]

I agree with ya'll, unless a miracle happens this is a lose for LU put Prewitt or Johnson in and see how they perform.

[LU4LIFE]

The Fox feed is fix.

[jdcurran235]

I just want Bevil out. I don't really care if it is Prewitt of JJ in. I just dont think we can win with Bevil.

[CardAmbassador]

The Fox feed is fix.

Yay, now the GT can see how terrible we're doing!

:angry:

[jdcurran235]

8 penaltys for 69 yards

[TBonesLU]

Again, understood. But they are losing by 25. It's not attributed to any one person. We are outmatched. Bevil hasn't had a chance. The good throws he has made have been missed.

[LU4LIFE]

The Fox feed is fix.

Yay, now the GT can see how terrible we're doing!

:angry:

Yeah maybe they should of just kept saying there was satellite problems.

[CardAmbassador]

The Fox feed is fix.

Yay, now the GT can see how terrible we're doing!

:angry:

Yeah maybe they should of just kept saying there was satellite problems.

I hate to say this but LU needs to go with a different broadcaster next year. They had these problems last year from what I heard.

[jdcurran235]

9 penaltys for 75 yards

[LU4LIFE]

9 penaltys for 75 yards

That's horrible your not going to win any games with a stat like that.

[CardAmbassador]

9 penaltys for 75 yards

That's horrible your not going to win any games with a stat like that.

We need a referee in practices calling everything.

[LU4LIFE]

9 penaltys for 75 yards

That's horrible your not going to win any games with a stat like that.

We need a referee in practices calling everything.

+1

[jdcurran235]

Again, understood. But they are losing by 25. It's not attributed to any one person. We are outmatched. Bevil hasn't had a chance. The good throws he has made have been missed.

We can agree to disagree. QB is the most important position on a team so a change can make all the difference in the world.

[LU1991]

I can't say I'm not disappointed. Very surprised at the lack of defense. Looked like a touchdown earlier that we had taken away. All in all .......bad in every part of the game especially special teams and offensive execution.

[Vroo]

I thought we would have a better showing than this. Proves that size doesn't have everything to do with it. We need talent and they need to put some players on short leash. You can't be afraid to change things up when things go like they are. No passing game no rushing bad penalties and the D is getting slashed bad. I think that about sums it up.

[jdcurran235]

I thought we would have a better showing than this. Proves that size doesn't have everything to do with it. We need talent and they need to put some players on short leash. You can't be afraid to change things up when things go like they are. No passing game no rushing bad penalties and the D is getting slashed bad. I think that about sums it up.

+1

[CardAmbassador]

This offensive line is not giving us any chance either, I've heard several times where Bevil is scrambling to get away from their rush.

At that point put in the faster guy. I agreed on letting Bevil start but I do think with a score like this we need to be changing it up. JJ played three plays?

[TBonesLU]

I thought we would have a better showing than this. Proves that size doesn't have everything to do with it. We need talent and they need to put some players on short leash. You can't be afraid to change things up when things go like they are. No passing game no rushing bad penalties and the D is getting slashed bad. I think that about sums it up.

I'm not afraid of change. I'm simply saying the coaches aren't reading this forum looking to us for advice on what to do. Get your point across and let it go! I want Johnson in as well. However, it obviously seems that in the game today it didn't matter who was at QB. We are outmatched. Cheer for Johnson, say you want him in, and move on. Like I said, Woodard isn't looking to BRI to see what we think. "Oh, they want us to bring in Johnson. Let's do it."

[jdcurran235]

This offensive line is not giving us any chance either, I've heard several times where Bevil is scrambling to get away from their rush.

At that point put in the faster guy. I agreed on letting Bevil start but I do think with a score like this we need to be changing it up. JJ played three plays?

This is exactly what I am saying

[TBonesLU]

Johnson is in! All is right with the world, huh, guys?

[CardAmbassador]

Venson with a nice run!

[jdcurran235]

another penalty

[CardAmbassador]

Delay of game, those are partially on the OC, gotta get that play to the team faster.

[CardAmbassador]

Now it's 2nd and 10 when it should be 2nd and 5.

[TBonesLU]

I love how quiet that crowd sounds after a TD.

[jdcurran235]

whew whoo

[CardAmbassador]

JJ to JJ for the score!!! YAY we at least scored a goal.

[LU4LIFE]

These players are going to see yellow flags flying at them in their dreams.

[Vroo]

Amazing put in the backup and they score a TD

[TBonesLU]

Look at it this way, guys. It's progress. We scored a big TD against them. It looks as though this may have won the starting spot for Jeremy Johnson.

[CardAmbassador]

Look at it this way, guys. It's progress. We scored a big TD against them. It looks as though this may have won the starting spot for Jeremy Johnson.

I hope so, I do think he has the stronger arm, with the speed of our WR corps I want to see more bullets and less rainbows in the passing game.

[Vroo]

I thought we would have a better showing than this. Proves that size doesn't have everything to do with it. We need talent and they need to put some players on short leash. You can't be afraid to change things up when things go like they are. No passing game no rushing bad penalties and the D is getting slashed bad. I think that about sums it up.

I'm not afraid of change. I'm simply saying the coaches aren't reading this forum looking to us for advice on what to do. Get your point across and let it go! I want Johnson in as well. However, it obviously seems that in the game today it didn't matter who was at QB. We are outmatched. Cheer for Johnson, say you want him in, and move on. Like I said, Woodard isn't looking to BRI to see what we think. "Oh, they want us to bring in Johnson. Let's do it."

I'm not cheering for anyone over the other. Just the best players. This is called a discussion board last I checked which is where we give our opinions which doesn't change the game in any way, I get that. Next time before you jump to conclusions about my opinion please remember this is supposed to be discussion. This is not a well I don't like his opinion so I will tell him it doesn't matter board.

[LU1991]

The point spread is less than last year....can we call that improvement for something positive.

[TBonesLU]

Look at it this way, guys. It's progress. We scored a big TD against them. It looks as though this may have won the starting spot for Jeremy Johnson.

I hope so, I do think he has the stronger arm, with the speed of our WR corps I want to see more bullets and less rainbows in the passing game.

The first thing Brown said after the pass was "good arm by Johnson". I would have to think that it was a pretty insisting pass.

[CardAmbassador]

LU 8
USA 30

Final

[TBonesLU]

I thought we would have a better showing than this. Proves that size doesn't have everything to do with it. We need talent and they need to put some players on short leash. You can't be afraid to change things up when things go like they are. No passing game no rushing bad penalties and the D is getting slashed bad. I think that about sums it up.

I'm not afraid of change. I'm simply saying the coaches aren't reading this forum looking to us for advice on what to do. Get your point across and let it go! I want Johnson in as well. However, it obviously seems that in the game today it didn't matter who was at QB. We are outmatched. Cheer for Johnson, say you want him in, and move on. Like I said, Woodard isn't looking to BRI to see what we think. "Oh, they want us to bring in Johnson. Let's do it."

I'm not cheering for anyone over the other. Just the best players. This is called a discussion board last I checked which is where we give our opinions which doesn't change the game in any way, I get that. Next time before you jump to conclusions about my opinion please remember this is supposed to be discussion. This is not a well I don't like his opinion so I will tell him it doesn't matter board.

You can look at some of my prior posts. I totally understand that this is an exchange of opinions, etc. I am one of Jeremy Johnson's biggest fans. I want him in the game as much as you folks. However, I see a lot of bad-mouthing Bevil constantly (not you or anyone in particular; mostly on SETXsports). I'm just saying to lighten up on him.

I want the best players in the game as well.

[CardinalClaw]

I just want to say to the USA fans on BRI, good game. You guy's out played us an good luck with the rest of your season.

[CardAmbassador]

Official stance, we we're out matched on this one. But the score should have been closer, I would say we gave them at least 1 with the amount of penalties we had and we fumbled our first TD chance.

The USA defense sounds pretty solid, they got good pressure on our QB all night long and they batted down several passes.

2 things that killed us:

Penalties - We helped the USA offense continue drives on two occassions that I can think of that ended up going for TD's. We also paralyzed our offense with holding and false start calls.

Offensive Execution - We did not know how to execute on offense. The USA defense was getting to us but that is no excuse, you have to make them pay with some quick passes maybe a toss to the TE's. We didn't make them pay for bringing the pressure and so they were able to take advantage of us all night. Also you cannot fumble on 1st and goal from 1 yard out. We should have had 2 TD's in this game.

[LU1991]

I have to say Bevil did not play a bad game. He had a few dropped that were catchable.

[Davis]

Very disappointing outcome.

The coaching in this contest was very questionable, and I'm at a loss for how this team looked so unprepared for South Alabama. The offensive line, which had a huge size advantage, was a non-factor and was severely outplayed. Defensively, to give up so many big plays on third and long is inexcusable. The Texas College win was a joke, and the team's first real road game made Lamar look like a joke. I would've been fine with Lamar losing a close game and at least competing, but they looked like they had no business being on the same field as South Alabama, and that does not bode well at all heading into Southland Conference play in a few weeks. This team had better get squared away up front, at quarterback and in that secondary, because if they don't, five wins this season is going to be a stretch.

[CardAmbassador]

I have to say Bevil did not play a bad game. He had a few dropped that were catchable.

His one mistake I can point to was costly, (fumble) but with that said it sounded like he wasn't doing bad, it was more of our offensive line not giving him any time, and WR's dropping passes that shouldn't be dropped. Bevil did not lose this football game, the team did.

With that said, we waited far too long to put in a different QB. I would like to see us a bit more nimble on personnel changes, it's the beginning of our second season of football, it's ok to mix things up still. This was one of the few complaints I had last year, I thought Bevil should have came out after the USA game and we should have rolled with whatever else we had, but it took us a few more games before we did that.

Hind sight is 20/20. I'm just glad we scored that last TD, took a small part of the sting out of this loss.

[LU1991]

I just want to say to the USA fans on BRI, good game. You guy's out played us an good luck with the rest of your season.

The USA fans were great in the stands as well. Made us feel very welcomed...maybe they knew something I didn't.

[05BigRed]

Of course I didn't get to watch the game but it sounds like the "new and improved" o line really didn't hold up to the hype...something better happen with them or the same thing will happen with the majority of conference opponents...also sounds like the D fell apart...the whole qb situation IMO needs to be resolved with a starter that can be a leader and motivate...all 3 can play but who can lead and keep the team motivated?...who can have a drew brees like persona to get the team unified and motivated to give it their all, stay focused, minimize stupid penalties, and make some plays?...I personally think the unknown qb issue is affecting both sides of the ball...the qb is your president, your leader you look to lead the way...and I know usa is a great team but I guarantee we have just as many talented individuals as them or any team in the conference...we just didn't hit on all cylinders...just my humble opinion...

[jdcurran235]

The one thing I will give the team is they didnt give up. If a team does not give up there is still hope for us.

[Vroo]

I thought we would have a better showing than this. Proves that size doesn't have everything to do with it. We need talent and they need to put some players on short leash. You can't be afraid to change things up when things go like they are. No passing game no rushing bad penalties and the D is getting slashed bad. I think that about sums it up.

I'm not afraid of change. I'm simply saying the coaches aren't reading this forum looking to us for advice on what to do. Get your point across and let it go! I want Johnson in as well. However, it obviously seems that in the game today it didn't matter who was at QB. We are outmatched. Cheer for Johnson, say you want him in, and move on. Like I said, Woodard isn't looking to BRI to see what we think. "Oh, they want us to bring in Johnson. Let's do it."

I'm not cheering for anyone over the other. Just the best players. This is called a discussion board last I checked which is where we give our opinions which doesn't change the game in any way, I get that. Next time before you jump to conclusions about my opinion please remember this is supposed to be discussion. This is not a well I don't like his opinion so I will tell him it doesn't matter board.

You can look at some of my prior posts. I totally understand that this is an exchange of opinions, etc. I am one of Jeremy Johnson's biggest fans. I want him in the game as much as you folks. However, I see a lot of bad-mouthing Bevil constantly (not you or anyone in particular; mostly on SETXsports). I'm just saying to lighten up on him.

I want the best players in the game as well.

You keep saying you folks as if I have a horse in this race. I have not hung my hat with any player. I simply said that if you are loosing like that and you have other capable players maybe it would be nice to switch things up a little sooner. Take a chance what's the worst that could happen? You win the game? I didn't say anything at all about Bevil. I'm sure he's a great kid and I'm sure he's a great competitor and wants to be out just as bad as the rest. But this isn't about one kid or what school he went to or is he a local kid or not. This is DI football not pee wee. It's not who his parents are or what background he came from. It's about winning games and sometimes you must make tough decisions and not be afraid to change. That's all I was trying to say. Again let me throw the disclaimer out there. I do not care who plays I do not have any personal ties to anyone on the field. I wouldn't care if that was my own child on the field. If it could possibly make the team better then make the change. When your down by 3 or 4 TDs maybe it's time to try something new. Just my opinion.

[theTestament]

Very disappointing outcome.

The coaching in this contest was very questionable, and I'm at a loss for how this team looked so unprepared for South Alabama. The offensive line, which had a huge size advantage, was a non-factor and was severely outplayed. Defensively, to give up so many big plays on third and long is inexcusable. The Texas College win was a joke, and the team's first real road game made Lamar look like a joke. I would've been fine with Lamar losing a close game and at least competing, but they looked like they had no business being on the same field as South Alabama, and that does not bode well at all heading into Southland Conference play in a few weeks. This team had better get squared away up front, at quarterback and in that secondary, because if they don't, five wins this season is going to be a stretch.

I could not agree more. It really starts with game preparation. The O line was dominated and it looked as if they were very confused with the defensive front they were up against. I also think the QB controversary should now be put to rest. We could definitely be in for a long season if something does not change. Keep your heads up guys, and get back to work on preparing for next week.

[Mike]

Here's the box score from ESPN:

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=312530006

[TBonesLU]

I thought we would have a better showing than this. Proves that size doesn't have everything to do with it. We need talent and they need to put some players on short leash. You can't be afraid to change things up when things go like they are. No passing game no rushing bad penalties and the D is getting slashed bad. I think that about sums it up.

I'm not afraid of change. I'm simply saying the coaches aren't reading this forum looking to us for advice on what to do. Get your point across and let it go! I want Johnson in as well. However, it obviously seems that in the game today it didn't matter who was at QB. We are outmatched. Cheer for Johnson, say you want him in, and move on. Like I said, Woodard isn't looking to BRI to see what we think. "Oh, they want us to bring in Johnson. Let's do it."

I'm not cheering for anyone over the other. Just the best players. This is called a discussion board last I checked which is where we give our opinions which doesn't change the game in any way, I get that. Next time before you jump to conclusions about my opinion please remember this is supposed to be discussion. This is not a well I don't like his opinion so I will tell him it doesn't matter board.

Be it known that I have no ties to anyone on the team either. I argued the same point yesterday. You and I are on the same page. I wasn't speaking directly to you regarding Bevil either. I was just speaking in generalities.

You can look at some of my prior posts. I totally understand that this is an exchange of opinions, etc. I am one of Jeremy Johnson's biggest fans. I want him in the game as much as you folks. However, I see a lot of bad-mouthing Bevil constantly (not you or anyone in particular; mostly on SETXsports). I'm just saying to lighten up on him.

I want the best players in the game as well.

You keep saying you folks as if I have a horse in this race. I have not hung my hat with any player. I simply said that if you are loosing like that and you have other capable players maybe it would be nice to switch things up a little sooner. Take a chance what's the worst that could happen? You win the game? I didn't say anything at all about Bevil. I'm sure he's a great kid and I'm sure he's a great competitor and wants to be out just as bad as the rest. But this isn't about one kid or what school he went to or is he a local kid or not. This is DI football not pee wee. It's not who his parents are or what background he came from. It's about winning games and sometimes you must make tough decisions and not be afraid to change. That's all I was trying to say. Again let me throw the disclaimer out there. I do not care who plays I do not have any personal ties to anyone on the field. I wouldn't care if that was my own child on the field. If it could possibly make the team better then make the change. When your down by 3 or 4 TDs maybe it's time to try something new. Just my opinion.

[CardAmbassador]

Mike Venson had a decent game two good returns and 5 caries for 25 yards. He set up JJ's touchdown throw BTW.

[CardAmbassador]

Game thread some how got deleted, Mike will have to bring it back when he gets to a computer.

In the meantime continue discussion on the game here.

[LU4LIFE]

I would just like to second what CardinalClaw said good game USA and good luck the rest of the season.

[Mike]

I have no idea what happened to the rest of the game thread. The entire thread was deleted and it would take me all night to go back and restore it all. I went ahead and restored the 7th page and we'll go from there. :)

[CardAmbassador]

I want to add that I also don't think this was a talent difference (except for maybe at RB, they have some good RB's) we just didn't come to play football. We were't mentally prepared for this game at all.

[bigred360]

I had a birthday party to attend and listened to KLVI until there was a fumble exchange between Bevil and Gilligam at the USA 1 yard line down 20-0.

Can someone feel me in on the rest of the game? IMO there were two big penalties that lead to 2 USA scores in the 1st half. A pass interference and personal foul that kept two long drives alive.

The defense has to cut down on mistakes and what was one of your best units last year (WR's) dropped a few passes.

[CardAmbassador]

I had a birtday party to attend and listened to KLVI until there was a fumble exchange between Bevil and Gilligam at the USA 1 yard line down 20-0.

Can someone feel me in on the rest of the game? IMO there were two big penalties that lead to 2 USA scores in the 1st half. A pass interference and personal foul that kept two long drives alive.

The defense has to cut down on mistakes and what was one of your best units last year (WR's) dropped a few passes.

You're right about those penalties in the first half, we kept two of their drives alive.

Here is the play-by-play:

http://www.lamarcardinals.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2011-2012/lu02.html#GAME.PLY

The LU football team shot themselves in the foot big time.

[Vroo]

I want to add that I also don't think this was a talent difference (except for maybe at RB, they have some good RB's) we just didn't come to play football. We were't mentally prepared for this game at all.

I did say we need talent. I guess I should have said we need the best talent on the field. I think that would have been a better statement. There is talent on this team it just needs to be used in the best possible way. But even in last weeks game there were still a lot of mistakes. I get the whole weather thing but this is two weeks in a row where we have given them way to much free yardage in the way of penalties. If we can't move the ball better than tonight this will make for a very long season. There were big plays given up on D but I would imagine our guys were wore down after having four plays to rest each time they left the field. I think moving the chains and limiting penalties will be a crucial aspect to get fixed immediately. If these two things can't be accomplished I don't care how great your D is you will surrender points. Look at and I'm sorry to mention them again but the Ducks last year. They gave up a lot of points but could put up 45-60 points a game with the exception of the last game last year and the first this year. Our guys have to be able to move the ball eat up clock score and score often.

[lu cards]

very poor showing today.woodard better light a fire under these guys or its gonna be a long season.no excuse for the penalties.hopefully this week woodard and his staff we focus on a game plan and not what the endzone angels are up to.